Jane Fonda broke down in tears as she talked to singer Demi Lovato about their decision to come out as non-binary and use they/them pronouns.
Fonda And Lovato Talk Show Business
Fonda, 83, spoke with Lovato, 28, recently on the podcast 4D with Demi Lovato about her decades-long career in show business and her activism.
They covered a range of subjects in the podcast:
While the two of them talked about discrimination and inequality, Lovato said that there is “an imbalance in the environment and the economy everywhere. I keep trying to tell all my friends, ‘It’s the patriarchy!’”
“When did that come to you, the realization that patriarchy is at the root of it?” Fonda asked.
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‘I Think It Came In Two Tiers’
“I think it came in two tiers for me,” Lovato responded. “I think the first tier was going to a friend’s poetry slam show that I identified so profoundly with, because they were talking about not conforming to genders and identifying not as male or female.
“When I heard their take on that, I identified with it so much that I thought to myself, ‘Oh, there’s something here,” they added. “There’s something that I’ve never known about my entire life but it’s clicking now and I need to research this, I need to do more work, I need to sit with this.’ So I did, I sat with it for over a year and the more I sat with it the more research I did.”
“The reasoning behind me cutting my hair off was because I was shedding all of the gender norms that had been placed on me growing up female in this world,” Lovato continued. “And I just always found that men were at the root of pushing their agendas on me – to be a sexy pop star, whatever would make other people the most money. And I had to break that mold because I had to find the freedom for myself in order to survive, to live.”
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Lovato then talked about a near death experience they had back in 2018. They had a drug overdose that acted as a wakeup call “to start living my life.”
“There was a voice inside of me that said, ‘You’re not living, and if you don’t start living your life for you it’s going to be your demise.’ So I woke up and I thought, ‘You know what, I’m going to live my truth, and no matter who it scares – no matter who in the patriarchy it shakes – I’m going to live my truth for me,'” they recalled.
Fonda Breaks Down
Lovato then noticed that Fonda was crying.
“What you’re saying is so brave. It’s so, so brave, I wish I could hug you right now,” Fonda said through her tears. “I’m so glad to hear you say all this, Demi. I’m just so proud of you and I’m so glad, and I admire it so much. I’m so glad that you came out of that because I’ve seen the documentary, that you came out of that with that realization and that you’re finding your real truth and it’s just wonderful. It’s just wonderful.”
Lovato replied by saying that Fonda’s support gave them “full body chills.”
“That means everything coming from you,” they added.
Both Fonda and Lovato are known to be radical liberals.
The pair of them have a lot in common. So, it’s no surprise that they carried on in this way when they came together.
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